What does true worship look like? It’s stepping into heaven by setting our minds on the things above. True worship is far more about our mental choices than our emotional conditions. True worship is focused on Jesus.
June 20, 2024
Speaker: Greg Sanders
Passage: Revelation 4:1-11
Today, we’re going back into Revelation chapter 4. I know we’ve been in it for a bit, and this has nothing to do with feeling like we didn’t cover it correctly. It actually has to do with something that came out of Dustin’s teaching. When I listened to it, I felt like the Lord really began to deal with me in regards to some things for our house.
I was in Minneapolis, St. Paul, recently with one of our clients, a church called Every Day. My company does audio, video, lighting and stuff. I was there for their opening weekend to help make sure it all went well for them because they were coming out of portable church life into site-built life. There’s a lot of what we call “spiritual demons” that can live in the systems.
I went there in work mode. Has anybody ever gone to something with one attitude and been totally caught off guard by something different? I walked in, and it wasn’t that I wasn’t into the Spirit; it was just that I was there to do work. I was there to be technical. I was there to coach sound guys and help them figure out how to set reverbs and delays on the DiGiCo. It was just technical stuff.
But something happened, where I was in a room with 1100 people, and it went vertical instantly and stayed vertical for about an hour and a half. I couldn’t help the reactions that were going on. I’m sobbing. I scared some poor lady to death because she’s not used to how loud I am in worship. I gave one of my “Let’s go!” and it caused her great fright. I had to remind myself, Oh, yeah, I’m not the pastor here. They might not yell. They might be more docile and chill.
What began to turn in me was, Lord, this is all I’ve ever wanted. This is all I’ve ever been interested in. It is being in a place where the people of God come together. And the Lord began to whisper a phrase, and I laughed because it was a Tupac phrase that went through my mind. The Lord just said, All Eyes On Me. If you’re like, I don’t know what that is; it’s just a hip-hop reference. I apologize.
The Lord said all eyes on Me. I stood there and realized what was different was that every aspect of attention in that room was on Jesus. I was paying attention to the songs. They were all to Him, not about Him, not about us and our perspective. There weren’t a whole lot of I’s, except for I exalt thee and that one’s a fair one.
Part of what was going on inside me was this incredible tumult: anger and sadness blended with how awesome it was. I went back and listened to Dustin’s teaching of Revelation 4 and that phrase, “Come up here.” I just couldn’t shake it. When Jesus speaks to John and says, Come up here, He says, I’m going to show you some stuff. He puts a teaching lens on it. He says I want to help you understand. I’m a teacher.
I realized something that I had never realized before. Every Day did this amazing thing that I pulled into our culture immediately. We’ve built all of our systems at Vintage for the “Be our guest, be our guest” kind of mindset. Very hospitality-focused, very excellence-focused. I realized something was happening in that church that I had never seen: they couldn’t care less about people walking in.
Not that they weren’t hospitable, they were just fixated on the Lord. They pulled their whole leadership team, all of their pastors and all of their worship. They went into a room and they worshiped and prayed until like 30 seconds before the gathering started. They call it the Engine Room.
I stood there and wept, watching people prophetically sing and declare the Scriptures. It was one of those moments where I was like, How have I missed this? How have I missed the need for every part of our culture to just go vertical and only vertical? How have I missed understanding that one of my jobs is to assess: is He preeminent?
Paul will say in Colossians, “I pray that Christ will be preeminent”. Why does he pray that? Because it’s the nature of the people of God to not make Him preeminent. We tend to focus on the activity of the Lord instead of the Lord. So I want to go back into Revelation 4 with that lens.
We’re stepping into a season as a church where we are defining culture and refining what we’re doing to accomplish it. I’m going to tell you up front that for me, there’s no holds barred. Every single aspect of our culture is on the table. I’m willing to assess it and cut it if it’s not Christ-centric. If it doesn’t invite the presence of God to dwell with the people of God, then I’m not interested in it anymore. If that makes this a less fun church or a less social church, I literally don’t care.
The history of the move of God in this region is that multiple times, the Lord has begun to land, but the people of God in this region have always become more excited about the activity of God than they are at God. If we’re going to be a people that can carry the presence of God and actually usher in a move of God in our day and in our time, we have to be people who understand He’s preeminent. He’s got to be first. Every song we sing, every prayer we offer, is to Him, about Him, captivated by Him.
We all know this isn’t a game, but I think sometimes religion becomes a game. That is the history of humanity. I just don’t want to be part of it. But I do want to be where the glory of the Lord is. I still believe there’s a day that is possible when the glory of the Lord settles on a gathering so heavy that nobody has to do anything. They just lay before the Lord. They just find their identity in silence.
“After this I looked, and there in Heaven a door stood open! And the first voice, which I had heard speaking to me like a trumpet, said, ‘Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this.’ At once I was in the Spirit, and there in Heaven stood a throne, with one seated on the throne! And the one seated there looks like Jasper and Carnelian, and around the throne is a rainbow that looks like an emerald. Around the throne are twenty-four thrones, and seated on the twenty-four thrones are twenty-four elders, dressed in white robes, with golden crowns on their heads. Coming from the throne are flashes of lightning and rumblings and peals of thunder, and in front of the throne burn seven flaming torches, which are the seven spirits of God, and in front of the throne there is something like a sea of glass, like crystal. Around the throne, and on each side of the throne, are four living creatures, full of eyes in front and back: the first living creature like a lion, the second living creature like an ox, the third living creature with a face like a human, and the fourth living creature like a flying eagle. And the four living creatures, each of them with six wings, are full of eyes all around and inside. Day and night without ceasing they sing, ‘Holy, holy, holy, the Lord God the Almighty, who was and is and is to come’. And whenever the living creatures give glory and honor and thanks to the one who is seated on the throne, who lives forever and ever, the twenty-four elders fall before the one who is seated on the throne and worship the one who lives forever and ever; they cast their crowns before the throne, singing, ‘You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for You created all things, and by Your will they existed and were created.'”
Holy Spirit, as we take a few moments to embark on this passage with an agenda for You to begin to reveal to us what it should look like, what it should be like, Jesus, instantly I’m reminded of Your challenge in the Lord’s Prayer: “on earth as it is in Heaven.” And so now that we see a heavenly picture, would You help us understand what it looks like for that to become what happens on Earth? We love You; we honor You. In Jesus’ name, amen.
There are some thoughts I want to highlight, and I want to start by really focusing on verse one, specifically, the phrase, “Come up here and I will show you what must take place after this”. What John is seeing is a picture of Heavenly worship, and there’s a couple of things that jumped out to me about the invitation to come up.
If I just said to someone, Come up here, you would have to do two things. To honor that request, you’d have to make the decision to obey me and trust me enough to do it, and you’d also have to change your position. Sometimes, we overanalyze the Scriptures, and we don’t actually see them for what they say.
Heavenly worship begins with a shift in our position or perspective. We have to move from one place to another. What do I mean? All too often, we will come into worship with our attention, and our affections, and our agendas, and our perspectives on earthly things. It doesn’t work that way. If you want to experience Heavenly worship, you have to make a choice to step into the heavens. In other words, you can’t hope to function in true worship and at the same time stay in your earthly mentality or your emotional condition.
Too often, Church, we, the people of God, allow our emotions to lead us. I had a Bible college professor that would say it this way: emotions are wonderful servants and terrible masters. Often, we allow our situations and circumstances, what we’ve been going through in life, to lead us. But here in this simple verse, in this simple phrase, we see a truth that we have to apply. If we want to engage in Heavenly worship we have to be willing to let go of the earthly realm and step into the Heavenly realm.
So how do we do that? I want to draw our attention to Hebrews 4, verse 16: “So whenever we are in need, we should come bravely before the throne of our merciful God.” The invitation to come up is open to all of us because of Jesus; it’s that simple.
None of us have to earn the coming up into the heavens in worship. We all walk into worship in the same condition. We have access to it because of what He did. The Lamb has prepared away. This is why He has to be preeminent. This is why He has to be the focus; He’s the only reason we have access. Because of that, we come bravely.
What do I mean bravely? We come without any hesitation or fear. If you’ve ever heard the whisper in the back of your mind that says, He doesn’t want to receive your worship, that’s a lie. In truth, what that verse says is, You should be excited to come into My presence because I’m excited to hear what you have to say. He is a loving King, a loving Father, who says, Your song matters to Me. You say, Yeah, well, I don’t sing well. Cool. The Scriptures are very clear that we are to make a joyful noise. Joyful has nothing to do with good.
If you’ve refused to bring your song before your King because you don’t think your voice is good enough, all you’ve done is allow your perception of yourself to stop something supernatural that He gave you to do. Let me put it this way. You stopped believing in your song. What that verse says is that He’s excited to meet us, and the first step is to understand that He wants to hear from us.
So what do we do? We remind ourselves in those moments of His love and His kindness, and we let that begin to change our perspective of ourselves. Part of learning to be a disciple is to be a learner under discipline. The discipline means I allow the Scriptures and I allow what He says to matter more than what I feel and think.
In Colossians 3, Paul will say this: “Therefore, since you’ve been raised with Christ…”. Okay, so “since you have been” is an action that took place at one point in time. It’s not something that’s going to take place in the future. At the moment you chose to believe in Jesus, the moment you chose to accept the sacrifice of the King, you were instantly raised with Christ into the Heavens. You have a new dwelling, and you have a new name.
You may ask, Well, then why am I still here? Because that is the mystery of this, that your Spirit is alive and set with Him and you’re part of the Kingdom. You’re established with Him, you’re by His side. My point is if part of us is already in Heaven, let’s make the other part act like it.
“Therefore, since you’ve been raised with Christ, strive for the things above”. Man, we hate that word strive. We have therapy sessions to stop people from striving. And yet Paul says, I want you to strive. What do you mean? I want you to work, focus, and put all your energy on the things above, where Christ is seated at the right hand of God. Set your minds on the things above, not on earthly things.
Did you know you have the authority as a believer to choose what you set your mind on? Your mind is not in control of you; you’re in control of it. If you’re letting your mind control you, you’re just abdicating your authority to control it. This is why the Scripture will say over and over and over again, Think on these things, set your sights. It’s a mental control.
So we step into the Heavens by setting our minds on the things above. It means we make decisions to think about Him, what He’s done, and His character.
I’m going to make a statement that might feel funny. We approach worship because it’s an artistic, creative, song thing. We approach it as if it’s an emotional thing. It’s not. True worship is far more about our mental choice than it is about our emotional condition. The danger, if we don’t understand that, is we will let our emotions lead us. Again, they’re wonderful servants, terrible masters.
I had a pastor that I worked for and he used to say this all the time to me: motion creates emotion. Set yourself on the right path and your emotions will follow. If you’re in a marriage and you’re having a hard time getting along with your spouse, start doing nice things. You’re like, I don’t even like them. Start being kind. Motion creates emotion.
In the same way, if you walk into worship and you’re kind of like, This is so boring, the band’s not that great, the songs are kind of dumb—set your mind on Him. Start declaring the right things, and all of a sudden, your emotions begin to follow. Why? Because they’re wonderful servants, terrible masters. Let me say it differently. You were always intended to be in charge of your emotions, they were never intended to be in charge of you.
And for this reason, in our gatherings, we’re going to sing songs about His character and His holiness. I’m kind of calling for an all-stop on songs about us because I don’t care. I read this the other day, and it blew me out of the water. We are in the most clinically advanced culture in the history of the world as far as access to therapy, as far as people that are in personal therapy, but all of a sudden now we’re starting to discover there’s actually a negative side to that. If people stare at themselves too long, they get more depressed. Because we’re also seeing depression on the rise at a level it’s never been before.
Could I just offer a simple, simple solution? Get your eyes on Him. I’m not saying I’m against therapy. I’m not saying anything except Get your eyes on Him. There’s an authority when the song comes out of you, when the prayer comes out of you. You begin to declare His worth, you begin to declare His character, and all of a sudden, you begin to align with His character.
Lo and behold, what happens is that the problem you were looking at as you transcend into the heavens, it begins to shrink. Earth gets a long way away. I’ve been on a lot of planes. The Earth is really small from 37,000 feet, and I bet from the heavens it’s even smaller. So you start to get perspective, Heavenly perspective.
We make a choice as a family to sing songs. I want you to become great worship stewards. In other words, when you are sorting out worship songs to listen to, put them through the litmus test. Is it about Him and to Him? Or is it about me? Is it about us?
Think about worship this way. There is a vertical plane, and that’s true worship; then there’s a horizontal plane, and those are the songs about us. Those are awesome, but those aren’t worship. Just because it’s called worship by people doesn’t make it worship. It’s not worship unless it’s called worship by the King. Chew on that one for a minute. If it gives Him honor and brings glory to Him, it’s worship.
We need to be choosing declarations privately and corporately that celebrate who He is and what He’s done, that help us make that mental transition. Did you know this principle works with music or without? You can stand in front of the mirror and begin to tell Him who He is. You could sit alone in a room and just begin to declare who He is.
I talked to a gal in our first gathering. She said, Hey, I don’t know if this fits, but I’m going to give it to you. I’ve just been going through this really lousy time, but because of the teaching of this house, worship is always on my mind. I’m like, I need to worship. She’s like, I have a terrible voice, especially in the morning pre coffee, but I was sitting on my patio the other day and thinking about how my life has just been awful. I know Pastor Greg told me to worship, so I just started singing. It was hard. There was no major life transition. I didn’t walk out of that time going, “The hills are alive with the sound of music.”
She goes on to say, But what it did was it made it a whole lot more fun and easy to engage when I came here. I was a semi-pro soccer player, and training alone was no fun, just hard work. But training alone made time on the pitch with a team fun. It made team training with other people fun. She says, Maybe you should encourage the body to spend time worshiping alone so they have more fun worshiping together. And I was like, I’m just going to invite you to teach.
So what happens, Church, if we begin to learn how to declare His worth? What happens if we become so good at true worship alone that when we get in an arena, and it’s not true worship, we recognize it and turn our focus back on Him? Are you with me on that? The promise of Scripture is that God is enthroned on the praises of His people, is it not?
So what happens if He’s not enthroned because the praises aren’t to Him? What happens if just because you strike a chord and sing a song, it doesn’t invite the King? Worship is to be a weaponized tool that we, as believers, learn how to wield.
I had a Bible college professor who used to say it this way: worship is primarily caught, not taught. Why do I say that? I want you to consider that us becoming a community of believers who understand how to authentically worship the Lord, understand how to invite Heaven into Earth, understand how to create an atmosphere of glory, that part is our discipleship process to the world around us. When people come in, and they don’t really know how to worship like that, they start to catch it.
Have you ever noticed when you’re around somebody who knows how to worship, you all of a sudden feel like you know how to worship? Have you ever noticed that when you’re in a room full of people who don’t know how to worship, you’re like, What is going on? I’m going to stick out like a sore thumb.
See, when we personally and as a family build an environment of worship in our personal lives and our corporate lives, we start to train the world around us. One of the things we have available to us that we don’t take advantage of enough is that we live in a time, because of technology, where we can audit cultures, believers around the world, around the nation, and we can learn from them, we can get energized by them, we can grow from them.
Sometimes, we get proud. We’re like, I’m not doing that because they’re not my church. Stop it. Hop on YouTube and just type in “worship” and see what happens. And then learn not to be judgmental, be careful with this, but learn to ask the question, Is this about Him or is this about us? Right now I feel like we’re at an all time high of songs about us. We make prayers about us. Everybody wants to talk, but I challenge you to go vertical. I want to encourage us as people to take this mandate seriously, personally.
Now, if you’re like, I don’t want to learn from other cultures, then great—let’s learn from the Bible. In Revelations 4 and 5, there is this one central element, which is that worship is about the Lamb. Every single thing in Revelations 4 and 5 is pointing to the Lamb. It’s talking about the Lamb. So much so, in fact, that John a little bit later starts to weep.
We’re not totally sure why he’s weeping. I personally think it’s because he’s still processing how bad things are in the churches he planted. But then an elder looks at him and goes, Hey, timeout. We don’t do that here. Here, we focus on Him. So behold the Lamb. True worship is focused on Jesus.
I want to caution against something that I see in the church. Sometimes, we even get excited about the activity of Heaven that’s happening on Earth. We get super excited about prophetic words and healings and signs and wonders. None of those are wrong, but they were never to be our focus.
Bill Johnson made a statement about 12 years ago that I have never let go of. At that time, we were in Redding, California, which is where I wanted to move before we started Vintage. That was my goal; just to go be where the Lord was at Bethel. The Lord’s answer was, No, I want you to stay here and plant a church. I want you to contend for My glory in Fort Collins. And I was like, Ugh, that’s going to be awful.
So at this time I was watching one of Bethel’s live streams and they were experiencing something called gold dust or glory cloud. It’s a phenomenon I don’t understand, and I don’t have to. I’m like, if the Lord trusted me to think about it, He’d do it at Vintage. I had a buddy who was leading worship there, and I asked him what it was like. He said it was just weird. He said there was just like this cloud that would hang out in the room and then move and sparkle, and it would move again, and it smelled really sweet.
That would have been kind of wild on a Sunday. Bethel wrote a song that says, “If He goes to the left…if He goes to the right”. Their song was about watching that. So there’s all of this craziness going on, and then Bill steps in on a Sunday morning and says, No more. It’s not a big deal. You see, our eyes are supposed to be on Him, and all too often, we get our eyes on the stuff instead of the One.
Jesus says to John, Come up here and I will show you what must take place, and I think this is the big idea. Because the word “must” means to happen or has to happen. The Greek here means it is necessary. Our best understanding of verse one would be: the things which are necessary to take place.
This phrase must be understood in context of how we see the narrative unfold. Because “after this” is an indicator that whatever is revealed is to happen from that time forward. Does that make sense? I’m going to show you what has to happen after this. I would offer that I don’t believe Jesus says it’s ever intended to stop from the time He reveals it.
I would also love to highlight that everything that is immediately communicated or revealed should be understood as an order of importance for John to learn, and therefore, for us to learn. He’s being given something to learn and to model. This happens directly after John hears what’s wrong with the churches that he planted.
I imagine if I was John, if Jesus gave me an assessment of Vintage and it was as negative as John’s assessments were, I’d be really, really bummed. I’d feel like a total failure. I’d feel like I had not done things right. Because Jesus is kind of ruthlessly honest with where the church is at.
But here’s what’s interesting for me. I think what Jesus gives him in that phrase, He’s showing him the solution to the problems He just revealed. Here’s what’s going on in the church. Let me show you how to rectify it. Okay, just for a theological moment consider this: where else in Scripture, in the New Testament church, do we see Jesus teach on what worship should look like? No place.
In one other place, Paul will teach on the activity of worship, but he’s teaching on the semantics of normal decorum in a public gathering. For example, when you take bread and cup be sure to share, don’t have sex in public, things like that. He has nothing to say about the activity of worship and the people of God.
So here Jesus is teaching John what it should look like on Earth. Remember, “on earth as it is in Heaven”. Heaven is to be our example, our picture, and we are to bring that to Earth. What He’s showing him is He expects the culture of the church to look like, and they needed to learn Heavenly worship.
I’m going to go out on a limb and submit that we also need to learn Heavenly worship. Worship is not a genre of music. It’s not a type of song. Worship is an encounter between the people of God and their King.
There’s a parallel story in Joshua, chapters 5 and 6. How many of you are familiar enough with the story about the walls of Jericho? It’s Israel’s first battle, and they’re coming in to take the promised land. They come to Jericho with Joshua leading them, and there’s a verse in chapter 5 that says something that’s important. It says, “When Joshua was near the town of Jericho, he looked up and saw a man standing in front of him with sword in hand. Joshua went up to him and demanded, ‘Are you friend or foe?’ ‘Neither one,’ he replied. ‘I am the commander of the LORD’s army.'”
I want you to catch a principal that’s free; it’s not about this teaching. Jesus is never with us; we are with Him. Our choice is to align with Him, not invite Him into our journey. He is your journey. And if you’ve thought you could add Jesus to your life, you made a mistake. The choices to lose your life and join His, or it’s to have none of it at all.
“At this, Joshua fell with his face to the ground in reverence.” It’s important we see this. Had it been an angel of the Lord, the angel would have refused to let himself be worshiped. The fact that Joshua was allowed to worship lets us know that there’s something different going on here. It’s called a theophany, which is an appearance of Jesus in the Old Testament.
“At this, Joshua fell with his face to the ground in reverence. ‘I am at your command,’ Joshua said. ‘What do you want your servant to do?’ The commander of the LORD’s army replied, ‘Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy.'”
Where else have we seen that? Moses, when God approaches him. Okay, so what we have here is Jesus teaching something to Joshua. He’s going to tell him what to do. He’s got the people of God, the Assembly of God, with him. I would offer to you an idea: Jesus teaches Joshua about worship, and He teaches John about worship.
Now, let’s look at the story of the walls of Jericho. Jesus tells Joshua, I want you to go into the city and I want you to go out and walk around it. Six times you will walk around it. I want you to get all the musicians and singers. They’re going to walk up front and you’re going to march around the city. You’re going to do this in absolute silence for six days. On the seventh day, when I give the command, you are to shout, you are to play, you are to sing, you are to bang on your drums, you are to make noise, you are to blow the horns, you’re to do everything.
So Joshua does it. What happens when they do that? The walls fall. If we look at archaeology, most archaeologists believe the Earth actually opened up and swallowed the walls because they fell directly down. They didn’t crumble. That’s a sidebar. Not important, just cool.
I just want to highlight a couple of things that I think are really important.
Jesus is teaching Joshua about worship. God could have used anything to help Israel win that war. He chose worship. That in and of itself is important. Why? Because I think He wanted His people to see what multiple days of silence produced versus one moment of praise. Perhaps what He wants for us is to understand that the reason we haven’t seen victories is because we stayed silent instead of choosing to praise.
I think He wanted to show His people that their song was stronger than their ability. We tend to lean on our abilities, never understanding the authority that comes with praise.
Ultimately, I think He was teaching His people the spiritual authority that rests upon worship; that it is a secret weapon for every situation. So He picks one of the most outlandish situations and says, I’m going to show you something crazy. And if it works on crazy, it’ll work on everything else. If it works on impossible, it will work on everything else.
Here in Revelation 4, we have Jesus revealing to this young church what must happen. All He’s doing is giving the early church an ancient mandate. You have to learn how to worship. It’s the first instruction we see Him give. I want us to hear this phrase. “Come up here, let me show you what must happen” is a tutorial for us. It reveals to us that that picture in Heaven has to happen here. We are to contend for that. We are to live in that. His people are to change their geography, their situation, their circumstances, no matter what they are, private or public, through praise.
I would love to ask you a question. What have you allowed to rob your song? What have you allowed to rob your declaration? What have you allowed to keep you from declaring His worth over your life, declaring His character over every aspect. Because what Jesus is showing John, and what we have to grab on to, is what it actually looks like to let Heaven invade.
I coached football for a long time. Sometimes, the simplest problems on a football team aren’t about talent; they’re about execution. Sometimes, the play falls down because a center doesn’t block. Sometimes it falls down because your running back runs the wrong route. He doesn’t hit the right hole. Everybody else did their job.
I think the Lord is refining our mechanics and worship as a family. He doesn’t demand, but He invites with a lot of authority. I think He’s inviting us to put our eyes on Him. To be a people who would put a line in the sand and say, When we come together, this is sacred space. This is a beautiful opportunity. We’re just going to come before Him, elevate Him, declare His worth, and love Him.
I definitely sense from the Lord an invitation for us to grow up, or maybe come up into a different level. One of the beautiful things about the transition from the Old Testament to the New Testament is that in the Old Testament, the priests were required to represent God to people as an intermediary. That is not our job anymore. According to the New Testament, we are a covenant of priests, all of us together. Our job is just to go vertical to Him.
In fact, the priesthood of believers is us. There is no line in the sand for clergy. There are responsibilities, but that’s it. I have a responsibility to this house because it’s a job He gave me to do. It’s no different than whatever job you have to do in your life. But together as a family, we have a responsibility before Him to contend on Earth as it is in Heaven.
I’m just reminding us as a church. I think we’ve gotten our eyes off the right kind of worship. Let’s refocus. Let’s refine our disciplines. When we come in, let’s come in ready to honor the King, to love on the King, to give everything we have to the King.
Lord, we love You and we honor You. Holy Spirit, my hope and my prayer is that I didn’t get in the way of this. That what You wanted to come through came through. Would you forgive us for getting our eyes on the wrong things? Forgive us for making it about anything else except You because it’s all about You. Forgive us for falling asleep at the wheel on some level. Holy Spirit, would You lead us and guide us in this season as You refine our mechanics and You begin to define true worship for us? We need You. We love you. We honor you. In Jesus’ name, amen.
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